Will I get flagged for giving away gold? - Guild Wars Forums

Moonstalker · Oct 27, 2009, 03:09 AM // 03:09

So, I don't know if this is true, but I'm pretty sure Anet catches people selling gold by looking at the logs and seeing if someone traded someone 100k or more in a short period of time and determines whether or not they were trading the gold to the person who bought it online. If this is true, and since I'm quitting for awhile, I don't want to give away all my gold if it means getting banned for Anet thinking I'm the gold-seller, and my friend is the gold-buyer. Is this true, or do they go through more? Like check the account's activity, chat, etc?

Hooded Doom · Oct 27, 2009, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Well i've wondered the same thing, two mates of mine who left Pve completely gave me some cash and ecto to sell to fund my title hunting for nothing in return.

I was just thinking about this actually, will i get flagged...

in any case, if i do they'll read the chat log and see it's nothing

Zanagi Kazuhiko · Oct 27, 2009, 03:43 AM // 03:43

lol, if you're giving away anything you won't get reported.

Moonstalker · Oct 27, 2009, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by Blinzx

lol, if you're giving away anything you won't get reported.

Who reports people who sell the gold? How do they know the people are the gold sellers when all they do is go up to the person who bought the gold, and give it to them? Why would the buyer report the person they're buying the gold from?

So I doubt most gold sellers get caught by being reported. I'm talking about the logs.

Zanagi Kazuhiko · Oct 27, 2009, 03:55 AM // 03:55

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Originally Posted by Moonstalker

Who reports people who sell the gold? How do they know the people are the gold sellers when all they do is go up to the person who bought the gold, and give it to them? Why would the buyer report the person they're buying the gold from?

So I doubt most gold sellers get caught by being reported. I'm talking about the logs.

No, they cannot ban you for giving away stuff, even with your logs. I gave tons of things away and I haven't been banned yet.

Moonstalker · Oct 27, 2009, 04:03 AM // 04:03

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Originally Posted by Blinzx

No, they cannot ban you for giving away stuff, even with your logs. I gave tons of things away and I haven't been banned yet.

Well, I just worry because giving away 500k in about 30 seconds seems pretty suspicious to me.. if I were looking at it from outside the situation.

LoneManWolf · Oct 27, 2009, 04:32 AM // 04:32

have your friends put in random useless junk
4 piles of dust, 10 iron, crap white weapons...
then it's not even flagged

leetLoLa · Oct 27, 2009, 04:46 AM // 04:46

^
that say to your friend to give u a crap wep or minipet

Zanagi Kazuhiko · Oct 27, 2009, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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Originally Posted by LoneManWolf

have your friends put in random useless junk
4 piles of dust, 10 iron, crap white weapons...
then it's not even flagged

That said you could do that, and even if you get banned...just explain to them what you did and on. They will probley lift up that ban.

Dallcingi · Oct 27, 2009, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by Blinzx

That said you could do that, and even if you get banned...just explain to them what you did and on. They will probley lift up that ban.

Anet shouldn't ban someone for doing that... it's like selling a mini ghostly for a crapload of cash. Non merchant items don't have a fixed value and the buyer and seller set the prices. If you want to pay 100k for a pile of glittering dust and a mini devourer, who is going to stop you?

LicensedLuny · Oct 27, 2009, 06:39 AM // 06:39

To make it as easy as possible for a GM that looks to see that it wasn't gold selling, why not have them join team first. Then discuss in team chat that you're friends and giving your gold away because they're going to keep playing while you are not, at least not for a while.

Then, if you happen to get swept up in some sort of filter program, you can direct support to team chat at the time of the trade if they don't spot it themselves.

Cheers

obsidian ectoplasm · Oct 27, 2009, 06:56 AM // 06:56

dear sir, may i have some of your money?

jonnieboi05 · Oct 27, 2009, 07:01 AM // 07:01

Here's an idea. Contact support and tell them you'll be giving away all your gold to a friend and supply support with your account credentials (your email and character name that you will be using) so that they know it was your if a flag does come up. You'll have your proof (the emails/"My Stuff" for your PlayNC) that you contacted support and gave them a heads up in case anything did happen.

Good luck.

~LeNa~

majikmajikmajik · Oct 27, 2009, 07:05 AM // 07:05

honestly posting this would be credible enough, but i dont think its a good idea unless you drop the gold in a explorable area in small incriments maybe like a hide&seek? just so you dont get flagged for giving high amounts of gold away(if its a lump sum ea time like 50k+).

SkekSister · Oct 27, 2009, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Contact them in advance. A Guildie got banned for moving 500k from one of his accounts to another in our Guildhall. He got the ban lifted eventually since the trade was proven to be between two accounts connecting from the same IP address, but it took a while and was a royal pain in the ass.

Kador · Oct 27, 2009, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by SkekSister

Contact them in advance. A Guildie got banned for moving 500k from one of his accounts to another in our Guildhall. He got the ban lifted eventually since the trade was proven to be between two accounts connecting from the same IP address, but it took a while and was a royal pain in the ass.

If true that's just ridiculous. You shouldn't have to notify them in advance if you are going to legitimately transfer items in-game. Checking the IP addresses is the first thing they should do as plenty of people have multiple accounts for muling purposes. More and more it's looking like they ban accounts far to easily and with a minimal amount of research, if any.

I have multiple accounts and transfer items on an almost daily basis, though not on the scale of 500k.

rb.widow · Oct 27, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I doubt they would say anything if its a 1 off thing, if however you had someone give you 200k today, and you give away 200k tomorrow, then the day after someone else gives you 200k and you give it away again, then yea id say that be drawing alot of attention to yourself,

Quaker · Oct 27, 2009, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by Moonstalker

So, I don't know if this is true, but I'm pretty sure Anet catches people selling gold by looking at the logs and seeing if someone traded someone 100k or more in a short period of time and determines whether or not they were trading the gold to the person who bought it online.

I would assume that ANet would also check the logs to see if the characters involved have done the same thing a number of times.
I would assume that gold sellers would use the same account to do a number of gold transactions, not just one or two. Also, the gold sellers transactions would tend to be more random in nature.
I would think that if you give away some gold to a few people within your own Guild or circle of friends, it should be no problem. It may look suspicious, so you might be tracked for a while, but I doubt that any real problems would arise.

Btw, I'm not sure that trading some trash for gold is a good idea or not. It may depend upon whether or not gold sellers do it too.

Moonstalker · Oct 27, 2009, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by Quaker

Btw, I'm not sure that trading some trash for gold is a good idea or not. It may depend upon whether or not gold sellers do it too.

I was curious about that, too. Although it seems unlikely, who knows?

Oct 27, 2009, 03:09 AM // 03:09	#1
Moonstalker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Club Of A Thousand Pandas [LOD???] Profession: Mo/	Will I get flagged for giving away gold? So, I don't know if this is true, but I'm pretty sure Anet catches people selling gold by looking at the logs and seeing if someone traded someone 100k or more in a short period of time and determines whether or not they were trading the gold to the person who bought it online. If this is true, and since I'm quitting for awhile, I don't want to give away all my gold if it means getting banned for Anet thinking I'm the gold-seller, and my friend is the gold-buyer. Is this true, or do they go through more? Like check the account's activity, chat, etc?

Oct 27, 2009, 03:23 AM // 03:23	#2
Hooded Doom Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: IGN : Hooded Lfg Uwsc, Il H O O D E D Il Guild: someones mad. Profession: D/	Well i've wondered the same thing, two mates of mine who left Pve completely gave me some cash and ecto to sell to fund my title hunting for nothing in return. I was just thinking about this actually, will i get flagged... in any case, if i do they'll read the chat log and see it's nothing

Oct 27, 2009, 03:43 AM // 03:43	#3
Zanagi Kazuhiko Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kamadan Dis 1 Guild: LF trolling/flaming guild, 8=D Profession: W/	lol, if you're giving away anything you won't get reported.

Oct 27, 2009, 04:32 AM // 04:32	#7
LoneManWolf Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2009 Profession: Mo/	have your friends put in random useless junk 4 piles of dust, 10 iron, crap white weapons... then it's not even flagged

Oct 27, 2009, 04:46 AM // 04:46	#8
leetLoLa Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pawn! Guild: Who Are You [wAu] Profession: W/Mo	^ that say to your friend to give u a crap wep or minipet

Oct 27, 2009, 06:39 AM // 06:39	#11
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	To make it as easy as possible for a GM that looks to see that it wasn't gold selling, why not have them join team first. Then discuss in team chat that you're friends and giving your gold away because they're going to keep playing while you are not, at least not for a while. Then, if you happen to get swept up in some sort of filter program, you can direct support to team chat at the time of the trade if they don't spot it themselves. Cheers

Oct 27, 2009, 06:56 AM // 06:56	#12
obsidian ectoplasm Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008	dear sir, may i have some of your money?

Oct 27, 2009, 07:01 AM // 07:01	#13
jonnieboi05 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mableton, Georgia Guild: Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]	Here's an idea. Contact support and tell them you'll be giving away all your gold to a friend and supply support with your account credentials (your email and character name that you will be using) so that they know it was your if a flag does come up. You'll have your proof (the emails/"My Stuff" for your PlayNC) that you contacted support and gave them a heads up in case anything did happen. Good luck. ~LeNa~

Oct 27, 2009, 07:05 AM // 07:05	#14
majikmajikmajik Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SATown~Tx Guild: Guild Hopper! Profession: R/	honestly posting this would be credible enough, but i dont think its a good idea unless you drop the gold in a explorable area in small incriments maybe like a hide&seek? just so you dont get flagged for giving high amounts of gold away(if its a lump sum ea time like 50k+).

Oct 27, 2009, 10:11 AM // 10:11	#15
SkekSister Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brighton UK	Contact them in advance. A Guildie got banned for moving 500k from one of his accounts to another in our Guildhall. He got the ban lifted eventually since the trade was proven to be between two accounts connecting from the same IP address, but it took a while and was a royal pain in the ass.

Oct 27, 2009, 04:11 PM // 16:11	#17
rb.widow Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009	I doubt they would say anything if its a 1 off thing, if however you had someone give you 200k today, and you give away 200k tomorrow, then the day after someone else gives you 200k and you give it away again, then yea id say that be drawing alot of attention to yourself,